For all of the doubters, take a look at where the Pirates overall organizational depth is right now, compared to where it was at this point three seasons ago.
While it doesn't currently show at the major league level, Pirates General Manager Neal Huntington and staff has done a tremendous job of loading up the organization with young talent.
For a change, the Pirates have "real" prospects in the organization and that's a positive sign that things will eventually turn around. Now that another successful draft is over for the Pirates, I thought I'd take a look at the Top 10 Prospects currently in the organization.
This list was harder to cut down to ten than I originally thought, so enjoy and feel free to comment with your top 10.
10. SS Chase D'Arnaud- D'Arnaud isn't having one of his best seasons, currently batting .246, 3 HR, 40 RBI at Altoona. He's still one of the best athletes in the system though.
He's a slick fielder who has shown the ability to hit at other stops. It should only be a matter of a year or two before D'Arnaud is starting in PNC Park.
9. LHP- Rudy Owens- Owens is a lefty who opened every one's eyes a season ago with a 10-1 season at West Virginia. He doesn't have over powering stuff, but throws strikes and has great command.
At Altoona, Owens currently is 10-6 with a 2.67 era and has an impressive 118 strikeouts to only 22 walks.
8. RHP Bryan Morris- Morris was acquired from the Dodgers in the Jason Bay trade and after dealing with injuries, has shown everyone what the big deal about him is all about.
He started the season in Bradenton and quickly was promoted to Altoona. He's hit a wall as of late and will likely be shut down to his innings count, but has an outside shot at a big league rotation spot next season.
Morris features a fastball in the low 90's and has good command of his pitches; including a very good curve ball.
7. LHP-Jeff Locke- Locke was acquired as the big piece of the Nate McLouth trade and has done a lot this season to open up some eyes. Locke started the season at Bradenton where he went 9-3 with a 3.54 era.
Locke has a solid four pitches and throws strikes. He since was promoted to Altoona where he's gone 2-1 with a 3.07 era. Combined at the two stops, Locke has struck out 123 batters in 127.1 innings pitched and only allowed 22 walks.
6. OF- Andrew Lambo- Lambo was acquired from the Dodgers along with James McDonald at this seasons trade deadline in exchange for Octavio Dotel. This will go down as the best trade Huntington has made yet as Pirates GM.
Lambo was the Dodgers number one prospect a season ago, but was suspended for 50 games for PED's and fell out of favor in Los Angeles.
Lambo is a five tool player that has potential stud written all over him. In 14 games since being acquired, Lambo is hitting .340 with 2 HR and 7 RBI. Scouts have raved about the young outfielders all around talent.
5. OF- Starling Marte- Marte is another five tool talent that is part of a future Pirates outfield. Marte was slowed this season by a broken bone in his hand, but after an early season promotion to Bradenton, the 22-year old is hitting .320 with 25 RBI and 17 steals.
Marte might be the most gifted all around talent in the entire organization.
4. RHP- Luis Heredia- The Pirates made waves by recently signing the 16-year old Mexican prodigy, which could wind up being one of the Pirates best international signings ever.
Heredia projects to be around 6"6, around 200 lbs. and already throws in the mid-90's. He won't be rushed, but on potential talent alone, he ranks very high on the list.
3. C- Tony Sanchez- Sanchez ranks a little higher on the list because he likely will reach the major's by 2012. The 2009 first round pick is said to be big league ready defensively and his bat has been a pleasant surprise, hitting .312 with modest power this far in his young career.
Sanchez took a pitch to the face which cost him some time, otherwise he likely would be in AA by now. Chances are he opens the season in Altoona next year and with a solid showing could force the Pirates hands on a quick call up.
2. RHP- Stetson Allie- An organization desperate for pitching, nabs the two best arms in the 2010 draft. I've seen all these guys pitch, including Allie and the kid has a lightning bolt for an arm.
The one thing the organization was lacking is starters with ace potential and Allie is now one of two that fit the bill. He has some things to learn, including some command issues, but you can teach command. You can't teach 100mph.
1. RHP Jameson Taillon- The Pirates made the pick they had to make in Jameson Taillon and they gave him a record $6.5 mil. Taillon is a guy that can get it up to 98 mph and has four out pitches and can throw them for strikes in any count.
Taillon has the tools to be Josh Beckett like, something the Pirates have been missing for far too long. If he and Allie become a solid 1-2 punch within 2-3 years, the Pirates will be well on their way to being competitive once again.
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Monday, August 23, 2010
Monday, August 16, 2010
The Future of the Pirates Could Ride on the Signings of Taillon and Allie
Decision time nears for Pirates General Manager Neal Huntington and the rest of the front office staff. First and second round picks, right handers Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie must be signed by tonight’s midnight deadline.
This becomes the toughest decision Huntington has ever had to make as General Manager of the Pirates. It’s even tougher then the Pedro Alvarez negotiations that nearly turned into an embarrassing mess for the Pirates.
The facts are that if the Pirates didn’t come to terms with Alvarez, there would have been some uproar, but in the end, the situation would have been viewed as “Same Old Pirates,” and been forgotten. In the end, the decision becomes easy for the Pirates. Just pay the kids.
This case is different. The Pirates absolutely have to sign both of these kids. What would happen if they don’t?
First of all, the Pirates would alienate the fan base they do have. They would lose trust and would have little chance of gaining new Pirates fans in the future, something they desperately need.
Owner Bob Nutting would be the one and only target of the backlash. We’ve heard time and time again the past year about how the Pirates are no longer in a position where money matters. He’s stated time and time again that the club will pay for talent. Now is the time to quit telling the fans and start showing them that you are serious.
If they don’t sign both, what exactly is the point of the rebuild? It makes little sense to start to rebuild the organization with young talent to just quit and give up on it half way through. If they fail to lock up both, the terms “rebuilding,” and “future of the Pirates,” can never be used again. Fans just won’t be able to take the front office seriously.
The final and most important reason that the Pirates need to sign these guys is the on-field performance of the pitching staff. The Pirates need quality arms in the system. One thing they are lacking is arms that have staff ace potential. These two kids fit the bill. You can teach kids whatever you want about pitching, but one thing you can’t teach them is how to throw 100mph.
After the deadline passes on Taillon and Allie, Huntington must turn his attention to signing highly touted 16-year old pitching prospect Luis Heredia out of Mexico. Heredia recently said he wanted to play for the Pirates. When is the last time you heard anyone say that?
Huntington has a busy couple weeks ahead of him. He can get off to a good start tonight by simply getting a couple signatures on a couple of contracts. The decision is an easy one. Give them whatever they want. Show them the money. Fans have watched this franchise count nickles and dimes for far too long. The decision is simple. Do what it takes to get the kids signed.
This becomes the toughest decision Huntington has ever had to make as General Manager of the Pirates. It’s even tougher then the Pedro Alvarez negotiations that nearly turned into an embarrassing mess for the Pirates.
The facts are that if the Pirates didn’t come to terms with Alvarez, there would have been some uproar, but in the end, the situation would have been viewed as “Same Old Pirates,” and been forgotten. In the end, the decision becomes easy for the Pirates. Just pay the kids.
This case is different. The Pirates absolutely have to sign both of these kids. What would happen if they don’t?
First of all, the Pirates would alienate the fan base they do have. They would lose trust and would have little chance of gaining new Pirates fans in the future, something they desperately need.
Owner Bob Nutting would be the one and only target of the backlash. We’ve heard time and time again the past year about how the Pirates are no longer in a position where money matters. He’s stated time and time again that the club will pay for talent. Now is the time to quit telling the fans and start showing them that you are serious.
If they don’t sign both, what exactly is the point of the rebuild? It makes little sense to start to rebuild the organization with young talent to just quit and give up on it half way through. If they fail to lock up both, the terms “rebuilding,” and “future of the Pirates,” can never be used again. Fans just won’t be able to take the front office seriously.
The final and most important reason that the Pirates need to sign these guys is the on-field performance of the pitching staff. The Pirates need quality arms in the system. One thing they are lacking is arms that have staff ace potential. These two kids fit the bill. You can teach kids whatever you want about pitching, but one thing you can’t teach them is how to throw 100mph.
After the deadline passes on Taillon and Allie, Huntington must turn his attention to signing highly touted 16-year old pitching prospect Luis Heredia out of Mexico. Heredia recently said he wanted to play for the Pirates. When is the last time you heard anyone say that?
Huntington has a busy couple weeks ahead of him. He can get off to a good start tonight by simply getting a couple signatures on a couple of contracts. The decision is an easy one. Give them whatever they want. Show them the money. Fans have watched this franchise count nickles and dimes for far too long. The decision is simple. Do what it takes to get the kids signed.
Thursday, July 15, 2010
What Exactly is the Pirates Plan?
Before I get started, this isn't bashing Neil Huntington or Frank Coonelly, but just an overall analysis of the long term plan of the Pirates. I don't feel Huntington has done a terrible job and should be given at least another year on the job. Throughout the last 18 seasons, we've heard the word "plan" attached to the numerous Pirates re-builds. Weather it be numerous five year plans or a three year plan, they have all failed miserably. What exactly is Huntington's plan with this current group.
Let's take a look at where the Pirates currently sit at 30-58. They are on pace to lose roughly 105 games this season. That's fine. I didn't expect much this year anyways.
However, a majority of the public has been eyeing next season as the year the Pirates get to .500 and start to compete. That is just not a realistic goal. Hypothetically, let's say the Pirates improve by 15 games next season off of their projected 57-105 record. A fifteen game improvement is quite a stretch, but that still would only make the Pirates a 72-90 team. Then let's say in 2012 they improve on that and win 81 games, hitting .500. Where does that leave us?
It's quite realistic that those numbers could be pushed back by a year. It's realistic to say that without some real veteran talent; not your Ryan Church's or Bobby Crosby's, but some real talent, that the team could be just as bad next season. That would lead to an improvement in 2012 and not hitting .500 until 2013, which means competing is 2014 or later.
Depending on which theory you subscribe to, where does that leave the team. The core of youngsters that include: Pedro Alvarez, Neil Walker, Jose Tabata and Brad Lincoln will be three, maybe four years into their first contracts. This is assuming they all become legit major league players, and it's not a guarantee that they all do. Will the Pirates front office make the attempt to keep them here long term to see this "plan" out? That doesn't even include Andrew McCutchen, who surely will be due for big money when his current deal expires.
Remember, the goal here is to win a pennant and compete year in and year out. It's not to just get to .500 and be happy. There is talent at Bradenton and Altoona, but they are still a couple years away. As for this years class that includes Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie? They still have to be signed. If they do, they would still be a few years away from PNC park as well.
Assuming Lincoln develops, the Pirates are still thin on pitching at the big league level for the next couple of seasons. All of the talent they are counting on, including : Bryan Morris, Jared Hughes, Jeff Locke, Rudy Owens, Justin Wilson, Nathan Adcock, Tim Alderson, Hunter Strickland and Aaron Pribanic are at a minimum two years away. Morris could be fast tracked to the big leagues, but the rest won't be around anytime soon. That's not even considering the fact that once the young pitchers do arrive, they will likely struggle their first go around at the major league level.
Not everything is so great down on the farm though. Alderson has been demoted. High regarded prospects such as: Starling Marte, Tony Sanchez, Victor Black, Quienten Miller, Brock Holt and Colton Cain have all suffered long term injuries that will push back their development.
So exactly what is the Pirates plan? Do we wait around until at least 2014 to see if these guys are a good judge of young talent? More than likely, based on past results, they aren't. Was it worth calling up all of the young guys this season, starting their major league clocks? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope they team can lock up all of our young players? We may have to.
I've said it many times before. Once the Pirates get some of their young core in place, they have to start adding to it from the outside. They are simply not going to win a pennant operating at the current pace. Granted, there is more talent in the system now then at any time in the last two decades. The Pirates overall farm system has improved from dead last to the middle of the pack. That's quite the improvement in a little under three years.
Most of the talent though is viewed as borderline major league talent. There are very few game changers currently in the system. We've been hearing for years that this is the core they wanted to build around, so let's see them do it. I have no problem this season if they deal every veteran on the current team. Trade Ryan Doumit, Zach Duke, Octavio Dotel, Church and others. They can't quit adding talent to the system. Also, continue to draft well. The plan should be to have a continuous pipeline of talent to the majors.
As for the big club, the time is now to start to add to this group of young players. That needs to start this off season. You can't run a major league team on nickles and dimes. Now the pressure is solely on Bob Nutting. If you don't want to spend money or can't spend money, then this franchise will always be a loser. You have stated you have no problem spending the necessary money. The time is upcoming. Show us, quit telling us.
They don't need to go out and spend $200 mil on one superstar. That doesn't make sense at the moment. What they need to do if add some quality bats and arms to the current group. They will be out there next year. Then we will see exactly what the "plan" really is.
Let's take a look at where the Pirates currently sit at 30-58. They are on pace to lose roughly 105 games this season. That's fine. I didn't expect much this year anyways.
However, a majority of the public has been eyeing next season as the year the Pirates get to .500 and start to compete. That is just not a realistic goal. Hypothetically, let's say the Pirates improve by 15 games next season off of their projected 57-105 record. A fifteen game improvement is quite a stretch, but that still would only make the Pirates a 72-90 team. Then let's say in 2012 they improve on that and win 81 games, hitting .500. Where does that leave us?
It's quite realistic that those numbers could be pushed back by a year. It's realistic to say that without some real veteran talent; not your Ryan Church's or Bobby Crosby's, but some real talent, that the team could be just as bad next season. That would lead to an improvement in 2012 and not hitting .500 until 2013, which means competing is 2014 or later.
Depending on which theory you subscribe to, where does that leave the team. The core of youngsters that include: Pedro Alvarez, Neil Walker, Jose Tabata and Brad Lincoln will be three, maybe four years into their first contracts. This is assuming they all become legit major league players, and it's not a guarantee that they all do. Will the Pirates front office make the attempt to keep them here long term to see this "plan" out? That doesn't even include Andrew McCutchen, who surely will be due for big money when his current deal expires.
Remember, the goal here is to win a pennant and compete year in and year out. It's not to just get to .500 and be happy. There is talent at Bradenton and Altoona, but they are still a couple years away. As for this years class that includes Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie? They still have to be signed. If they do, they would still be a few years away from PNC park as well.
Assuming Lincoln develops, the Pirates are still thin on pitching at the big league level for the next couple of seasons. All of the talent they are counting on, including : Bryan Morris, Jared Hughes, Jeff Locke, Rudy Owens, Justin Wilson, Nathan Adcock, Tim Alderson, Hunter Strickland and Aaron Pribanic are at a minimum two years away. Morris could be fast tracked to the big leagues, but the rest won't be around anytime soon. That's not even considering the fact that once the young pitchers do arrive, they will likely struggle their first go around at the major league level.
Not everything is so great down on the farm though. Alderson has been demoted. High regarded prospects such as: Starling Marte, Tony Sanchez, Victor Black, Quienten Miller, Brock Holt and Colton Cain have all suffered long term injuries that will push back their development.
So exactly what is the Pirates plan? Do we wait around until at least 2014 to see if these guys are a good judge of young talent? More than likely, based on past results, they aren't. Was it worth calling up all of the young guys this season, starting their major league clocks? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope they team can lock up all of our young players? We may have to.
I've said it many times before. Once the Pirates get some of their young core in place, they have to start adding to it from the outside. They are simply not going to win a pennant operating at the current pace. Granted, there is more talent in the system now then at any time in the last two decades. The Pirates overall farm system has improved from dead last to the middle of the pack. That's quite the improvement in a little under three years.
Most of the talent though is viewed as borderline major league talent. There are very few game changers currently in the system. We've been hearing for years that this is the core they wanted to build around, so let's see them do it. I have no problem this season if they deal every veteran on the current team. Trade Ryan Doumit, Zach Duke, Octavio Dotel, Church and others. They can't quit adding talent to the system. Also, continue to draft well. The plan should be to have a continuous pipeline of talent to the majors.
As for the big club, the time is now to start to add to this group of young players. That needs to start this off season. You can't run a major league team on nickles and dimes. Now the pressure is solely on Bob Nutting. If you don't want to spend money or can't spend money, then this franchise will always be a loser. You have stated you have no problem spending the necessary money. The time is upcoming. Show us, quit telling us.
They don't need to go out and spend $200 mil on one superstar. That doesn't make sense at the moment. What they need to do if add some quality bats and arms to the current group. They will be out there next year. Then we will see exactly what the "plan" really is.
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Tabata and Lincoln to Debut
The Pirates have made strides to showing off the future of the franchise. It looks to be a third consecutive good draft, assuming the clubs signs top picks Jameson Taillon and Stetson Aliie.
Tonight is another step towards the future as the team unveils top prospects Brad Lincoln and Jose Tabata to make their debuts tonight against the Nationals.
They won't be met with the national media flare that Stephen Strasburg did last night, but they are just as important to the teams future as Strasburg is to the Nats.
Lincoln will get the start and Tabata will likely play left and bat either first or second. It's been so many years since the team has had "REAL" prospects. So this is a time to get excited and see what these young guys, as well as the talented youngsters to follow can do.
Tonight is another step towards the future as the team unveils top prospects Brad Lincoln and Jose Tabata to make their debuts tonight against the Nationals.
They won't be met with the national media flare that Stephen Strasburg did last night, but they are just as important to the teams future as Strasburg is to the Nats.
Lincoln will get the start and Tabata will likely play left and bat either first or second. It's been so many years since the team has had "REAL" prospects. So this is a time to get excited and see what these young guys, as well as the talented youngsters to follow can do.
Monday, June 7, 2010
Pirates Select Hard Throwing Taillon With Second Overall Pick
Well the Pirates made their pick and have made me very happy, selecting the 6'7 flame throwing, Texas right hander Jameson Taillon. Taillon was viewed as one of three can't miss guys that also included Bryce Harper and Manny Machado.
Naturally Harper went first overall to the Nats and after the Bucs selected Taillon, Machado went third to the Orioles. I would have been happy with either Taillon or Machado, but I was a little more excited to get Taillon.
As much as I liked Machado, ultimately he is viewed as a third baseman instead of a shortstop. Unless the Pirates were committed to moving Pedro Alvarez to first base, then the pick didn't make much sense.
With Taillon, we get a guy viewed as a top of the rotation guy with a great make up and excellent stuff. He has three plus pitches- fastball, curveball and slider. he is also throwing a change up some now and scouts have said that is coming along very well. It's the kid's make up though which have had scouts in awe. The guy is tough as nails and is the ultimate competitor.
Give the Pirates credit. For a team that was running JVB, Brian Bullington, and other stiffs out to the mound just three years ago, they know have some good pitching talent in the system. In 2-3 seasons, we could see a young rotation of Tailon, Brad Lincoln, Bryan Morris, Tim Alderson and Rudy Owens. Things are looking much better for the future of the Pirates.
Now all we gotta do is sign the kid.
Naturally Harper went first overall to the Nats and after the Bucs selected Taillon, Machado went third to the Orioles. I would have been happy with either Taillon or Machado, but I was a little more excited to get Taillon.
As much as I liked Machado, ultimately he is viewed as a third baseman instead of a shortstop. Unless the Pirates were committed to moving Pedro Alvarez to first base, then the pick didn't make much sense.
With Taillon, we get a guy viewed as a top of the rotation guy with a great make up and excellent stuff. He has three plus pitches- fastball, curveball and slider. he is also throwing a change up some now and scouts have said that is coming along very well. It's the kid's make up though which have had scouts in awe. The guy is tough as nails and is the ultimate competitor.
Give the Pirates credit. For a team that was running JVB, Brian Bullington, and other stiffs out to the mound just three years ago, they know have some good pitching talent in the system. In 2-3 seasons, we could see a young rotation of Tailon, Brad Lincoln, Bryan Morris, Tim Alderson and Rudy Owens. Things are looking much better for the future of the Pirates.
Now all we gotta do is sign the kid.
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